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The T-34 Association posts the following information as a service to members of the T-34 Association and the T-34 community. We do not thoroughly research the answers to questions. Anything that looks like advice on the page is one person's opinion. Add whatever you glean from it to your understanding of the subject that you are researching. Do not base any decision solely on what you read here.

 

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T-34 Basics

 

Q: What is the difference between the “A” and the “B”?

 

A: The main differences between the “A” and the “B” include:

 

- The certification category; the “A” was certified in the Acrobatic Category while the “B” is only certified for the Utility category. This allows the “A” models to perform aerobatics.

- The fuel system; the “A” has L/R selector and the “B” has “Both” and feeds to a 4 gallon header tank.

- Rudder pedals. “B” has adjuster rudder pedals and fixed seat

- Seat; “A” has adjustable seat but fixed rudder pedals

- Dihedral. “B” has 1 degree more dihedral than the “A”

 

Beyond those basic differences there are numerous STCs for engines, fuel tanks, avionics, batteries, etc. so differences between even the same model aircraft can be significant. 
 

 

Q. How many gallons of fuel does the T-34 hold?

 

A: The standard T-34 has 50 gallons usable. Some T-34s have slightly smaller fuel bladders resulting in only 45 gallon usable. It is important to verify which you have. Additional STCs allow for a 40 gallon “wet wing” for 80 gallons total or the additional of Beryl D’Shannon 15 gallon tip tanks which also give an 80 gallon total. The Parks STC for the BDS tip tanks also increases the MTOW to 3,200.

 

 

Q: How much baggage can be put in the T-34?

 

A: One of the great qualities of the T-34 is the ability to be a sort of jack of all trades. Its large baggage compartment easily allows for 4 normal airline size carry-on bags. The door has an irregular shape but the basic dimensions are 14 ½“ along the top, 19 ½“ along the bottom and 18 ½“ tall. It is 33 ½“ in width (or depth). The actual compartment is larger than the door but also has a slight irregular shape as rear cockpit bulkhead makes up the front of the baggage and it has a slight slope to it. The top is approximately 16”, the bottom is approximately 22” and it is 25 ½“ tall. The maximum baggage load is placarded at 100 lbs.

 

 

Q: Over the years, have heard something about bungee cords on the rudder/aileron hook up.  Can you enlighten me on that?

 

A: The bungees were added as T-34s were converted to civilian use. The intent was to provide rudder input automatically with application of aileron. Most T-34s have had the bungees system removed through FAA-sanctioned procedures.

 

 

Q: I have heard that some T-34s have a rudder-ailieron interconnect bungee system. What's that all about?

 

A: (In editing.)

 

 

Buying a T-34

 

Q: What are the main items to look for when looking for a T-34 to purchase? What are the questions I should be concerned about and ask the seller?

 

A: Go to this page for a collections of responses from several T-34 owners to this question.

 

 

Insurance

 

Q: Insurance? What is the average "ball park" cost per year for a policy for a T-34 costing between $150K and $200K for pilots having lots of high performance and retractable time?

 

A: Liability insurance for “pleasure & business” is about $225 for $1M / $100k per passenger. Hull insurance is expressed in a rate per $100 of value. For example a $145,000 hull value would carry a $2,030 annual premium for a hull rate of $1.40 per $100.
 

 

Q: Is there one insurance company that provides the best and lowest cost service for T-34 owners? Who is that company?

 

 

Q: Who can give me training for insurance purposes?

 

A: Your insurance underwriter will determine your specific requirements for based on your qualifications. A fairly common requirement is to receive a minimum of 10 hours of dual instruction in the aircraft. Your insurance underwriter will usually require this person be familiar with and qualified in the Beech T-34. (One T-34 owner who responded to requests for answers to FAQs was told by his insurance company it has to be someone who can instruct in that specific model, and not just another ASEL plane, e.g. a Bonanza doesn't count.)

 

 

Q: How much training does an insurance company require?

A: A fairly common requirement is to receive a minimum of 10 hours of dual instruction in the aircraft

 

 

Inspections

 

Q: Are there any "required" inspections other than an "annual" for the T-34 due to its age or any other reasons?

 

A: As with any GA aircraft if you operate it commercially (for hire) with passengers or for instruction then you must have a 100 hours inspection in additional to the annual inspection. Depending on which AMOCs your T-34 has there are different inspection intervals.

 

 

Engines

 

Q: I believe the Continental 225 HP 0-470 is the stock engine that came on the T-34, but recently saw one or two ads with the 0-550. I believe that to be a 285 HP engine, but not sure. What are the benefits of one of these engines compared to the other? Which engine do most T-34 owners prefer and why?

 

A: The stock aircraft came with a Continental O-470. Some later aircraft had the O-470 260 hp engine. Many of today’s aircraft have been modified to the IO-520 BB (285 hp) or the IO-550 B (300 hp). A few have been upgraded to the IO-550 R (310 hp). The IO-520 BB can be converted to an IO-550 B during overhaul.

 

Which engine to T-34 owners prefer? Whatever they can afford. :-)

 

 

Q: What are the flight performance figures for these two engines? GPH, power settings, cruise speeds at the same altitude? Range? Etc?

 

A: Depending on the airframe there is a climb and cruise performance increase as well as reduction in takeoff roll. The difference between an original 225 hp to a 300 hp can be quite significant. An IO-520 at 6,000’ and 75% power will give a 165 KTAS while burning 15.5 gph at 50 degrees rich of peak

 

 

Q: I've read some articles on GAMIjectors for the T-34. Do these really perform, worth the cost and save 1-2 GPH as published in the sales articles?

 

A: Depending upon the engine a savings of 1 – 2 gph is not uncommon when running LOP with GAMI injectors.

 

 

Q: What does a major overhaul cost on a 225 HP Continental? 285/300 HP?

 

A: Your overhaul cost will depend on how you operated the engine, its time since last overhaul and total time on the engine. Some average costs would be:

 

O-470 = $25,000

IO-520 = $28,000

IO-550 = $31,000

 

 

Operating Costs

 

Q: What do they cost to operate?
 

A: This will depend upon how the aircraft is operated (i.e. ROP, LOP, 75% power vs. 55% power, acro, formation, etc.)

 

The biggie on operating costs, of course, is avgas which as of this writing (November 2011) costs $6.20 per gallon for 100LL. At 15 GPH that equates $87 per hour just for gas. Here is one person's WAG on operating costs -- things that get used up (fuel, oil, tires, brakes, lights, engine, inspections, and paint). Plugged values into a spreadsheet for each of these items and came up with $125/hour.

 

Fixed costs in this person's estimate (hangar, property taxes, insurance, annual inspection and repairs, and business entity fees -- $800/year to state of California for LLC that actually owns the airplane) comes to $12,000 per year.

 

 

Q: Is there adequate support and parts? Expensive?
 

A: The T-34 is based on the Beech Bonanza which is still in production. As a result there are plenty of parts available for the T-34 from many suppliers. No one has a corner on the T-34 market.

 

 

Financing

 

Q: What loan company has been the most favored by the Association Members for an aircraft loan to purchase a T-34. What is the current interest rate and for how many years the loan is for?

 

A: There are several lenders who are willing to lend on warbird aircraft. In 2009 typical rates were 7.6% on a 20 year loan.

 

 

STCs

 

Q: Are there any STCs for the T-34 and what would they be?

 

A: There are many STCs available for the T-34 for upgraded engines, wing tanks, avionics, and much more. We have a page for STCs on our website but as you can see there isn't much of anything there.

 

 

T-34 Community

 

Q: What is the community like? (are they fun, communicative, welcoming, helpful, etc.)

 

A: The T-34 Association has more than 400 members worldwide. There are large gatherings of T-34s every year at Oskosh, Sun’n’Fun, Tulahoma, and numerous member hosted fly-ins throughout the country and virtually every region has a group of T-34’s nearby. Go to this page for information on T-34 Association membership.

 

 

Airworthiness Issues

 

Q: Are T-34s on the verge of being grounded for good?

 

A. No. Click here for details.

 

 

Q: What are some of the ways to return the T-34 to the original flight envelope?

 

A. There are several. Click here for details.

 

 

Q: Are the T-34s fixed?

 

A: Were they ever broken?...but that is another story. There are multiple AMOCs (Alternate Method of Compliance) for the ADs (Airworthiness Directive) that were issued by the FAA on the T-34 spars and center section. See Airwrothiness Issues page for details about the various AMOCs.
 

 

Q: Why were the wings coming off?

 

A: Two words: Fatigue and abuse. Click here for details.
 

 

Q: How much do the fixes cost?
 

A: Click here for details.

 

 

Q: How often do the fixes have to be inspected and what is the cost?
 

A: Each of the AMOCs has a required inspection interval. The good news is that they are all pretty far out there compared to the original AD for the wing which called for a re-inspection every 80 hours! See this page for re-inspection intervals. We do not have any cost estimates for re-inspections.

 

 

Q: Could I get a brief story on the wing spar problem and the fixes available? I have heard something about 4 different fixes. I have yet to determine if one of these 4 fixes is all that is needed to remove the performance restrictions or are all 4 fixes needed, or a combination of some? Which is the best fix to have done? What are the costs of these fixes?

 

A: The original wing spar AD (AD 2001-13-18 R1 ) called for recurring 80 hour inspections. Four vendors came out with AMOCs (Alternate Method of Compliance) for the AD. All of them raised the re-inspection interval considerably. See "Wing Spar AMOCs" and "Center Section AMOCs" on our Airworthiness Issues page for details about the various AMOCs.

 

 

Q: Are there any other flight control or mechanical problems I should be concerned about cropping up in the future as with the wing spar problem, such as corrosion problems, original flight instruments or avionics replacements, etc?

 

A: As with any aircraft a thorough pre-purchase inspection is highly recommended. The T-34 has been in service now for 57+ years and in that time has proven to be a rugged and reliable aircraft. A properly maintained and cared for aircraft has no life limit and with the attention that has been given the aircraft for the last 10 years the weakest areas of the aircraft have been addressed and now have long term improvements. There is no reason to not expect the T-34 to be flying for another 50+ years.

 

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Updated April 22, 2013. Click here to send us feedback on our website.